CALEXIT & TEXIT: A Conversation with Marcus Ruiz Evans

In this episode of the Texas News Podcast, Daniel sits down with Marcus Ruiz Evans of CalExit to discuss the growing movement for California independence. They explore the common ground between the Texas and California independence movements, debunk misconceptions about state independence, and dive into CalExit’s recent approval to begin collecting signatures for their independence referendum ballot measure.

Marcus shares his journey into the independence movement, the challenges faced by CalExit in mainstream media coverage, and how their approach to achieving independence has evolved over time. Daniel and Marcus examine how both movements are working to overcome stereotypes and media bias while advancing the fundamental right of self-determination.

The conversation covers key topics including:

? The recently approved CalExit ballot initiative
? How California’s political climate differs from Texas
? Media misrepresentation of independence movements
? The role of referendums in achieving independence
? Building credible, professional independence organizations
? The importance of educating voters on self-determination

Links:
CalExit Website: https://calexitnow.org
Texas Nationalist Movement: https://thetnm.org/

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Marcus Ruiz Evans traced his own path to CalExit back to the Iraq War, when a network broadcast reported one poll showing the rest of the United States behind the invasion and, minutes later, another showing Californians firmly against it. He set out to write a sociological text on how California differs culturally and ended up pushing for independence after reading scholars who argued the state could stand on its own. The group first called itself Sovereign California, then dropped the name when voters didn’t know what it meant.

Evans said the initiative would compel a state investigation and put a nonbinding question on a future ballot. He argues that pairing meets the basic test international law applies to peaceful independence votes. Miller took on the worry over the word “nonbinding,” arguing that a strong result in any independence referendum becomes politically binding whatever the ballot language says. He closed on Article 1, Section 2 of the Texas Constitution, calling the right to alter or abolish government a universal right that belongs to Californians as much as to Texans.