Host Will Kacy gets personal about a word he admits he used to flinch at, the one in the middle of the movement’s own name: nationalism.
He takes on the campaign to turn it into a slur, to tie it to xenophobia and racism, and goes back to what the word actually means, a people’s wish to govern themselves and the pride they take in their home. Hearing Daniel Miller talk about it, Kacy says, is what changed how he carries the term.
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